Many know Chuck D for his music -- the Rock & Roll Hall of Famer founded the iconic group Public Enemy -- while he's established himself as a serious voice and advocate in politics and policy. The Grammy-winner led a progressive resurgence on Air America Radio alongside Rachel Maddow, campaigned for Bernie Sanders in taking on Trump, and continues to work on civil rights and labor issues, including a new alliance with the major union SAG-AFTRA to empower artists. Chuck D discusses that effort, his music, the link between technology and culture, and the metaverse in this interview with MSNBC anchor and music obsessive Ari Melber.